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Thursday, 9 October 2014

Conversations with One: Must Love My Family - Yay or Nay?

Hi and welcome to this week's edition of Conversations with One! *cue music*

A little introduction for first-timers:

Conversations with One is a chat-series on the blog.

Each week, the 1 + TheOne panel (made up of beloved and very wise friends with a variety of personalities) and I bring you snippets of our 'round-table' discussions from a male/female perspective.. We talk about any and every thing!!

FRIENDS BRAIN
First, let's take a selfie! source
Ladies! Have you ever wanted to get into the mind of a guy? (I know I do! lol), and for guys, I bet once in a while you wish you could just read her mind! Well hopefully week after week, we get to bridge that gap!

You can have a look at the last conversation where had a very lively discussion on the importance and role of money in relationships/marriages. You can read it and other previous episodes HERE.

Ok, so today's discussion is from a question/dilemma:

"My fiancé is absolutely amazing and I thank God for him. The only thing that concerns me about our relationship is that he doesn't quite get along with my family members. They talk quite alright but he doesn't really go out of his way to get to know them or bond with them. I'm really close to my family and I wonder, should I be worried??"

So ladies and gentlemen, here we have it - 

How important is it for your Partner or SO to get along with your family? Can it be a deal breaker for you?

As always, candid and very brief responses will be wonderful! Please give personal/real-life examples where possible.

Let's talk!

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NubianPrincess: It's a pretty sensitive one to be honest... I'm insanely close to my family and so I would like my SO to have some sort of a close relationship with them, same as I would strive to have with his family BUT within plenty reason.

I once dated this dude, guy told me one day, that I was too close to my family, especially my sis and I shouldn't share so much with them... For some reason it rang alarm bells in my head. Needless to say, the relationship didn't work out.

Mr NumeroUno: Please who/what is SO?

One: Lol, Numero Uno! SO is your Significant Other = Fiance/Serious Relationship person as first introduced used here by NubianPrincess...

Ms PumpkinUnited: SO is a 'koro' term for Significant Other, as in your 'boo of life' as in your 'chocomilo', as in your 'kuchykuchy'...

Mr NumeroUno: Lol. I love Chocomilo

I love you like Chocomilo!
One: Lol.. MsPumpkinUnited, that's where we will see you in action!

NubianPrincess: Lol..
You see, I'm not unreasonable, I don't expect all the details of my married life or relationship to be shared with family but there can be some danger in isolation, and when a man tries to 'isolate' a woman from her family or create some enmity there, one should shine eye ooh!

One: It's true, bells should start ringing loudly if a man or woman is trying to isolate you from your family!

NubianPrincess: A friend dated this guy who used to abuse her - physically and emotionally. Step one was to isolate her from her family and friends. Then he started bending her to his will slowly, 'lovingly' and forcefully. Then abuse started. She became a shadow of herself in a very short time.

While I'm a firm believer in hubby dearest being numero uno in my life after God, I also think that women especially need a firm support system in place for after they're married and this can be in the form of biological family, church family or trusted friends.

A strong support system = Very important!
Mr Agbalagbaski: I agree with Nubian, not alarm bells only, but war bells should be ringing! One of my tests (I hope you agree with me that tests are allowed right?! if you agree let me hear you say 'Whoooop Whooooop!!!') is that before things get serious I do a siblings test. if there's no connection then it's a warning sign for me.

                                    
                                                           Apply with supporting documents please

One: Whoop Whoop!!! I agree with you on tests lol.. That's a definite one for me.... I have to definitely watch the way the person relates with my family.. If it's not there, that is F9..
I am sorry, I do expect the 'going out of your way to be good to them' and cultivating their friendship. If you knew me, you would know that that's hugely important to me! So if the interest in them is tepid like the question suggests, I would feel very uncomfortable being in that relationship.

Mr Agbalagbaski: We are taught in pre-marriage class that what you get in courtship will be overflowing in marriage. What's at stake here in marriage - A) He'll tolerate your family. B) Don't expect him to change suddenly.
In response to the question, I would strongly prescribe the following:

  1. Heart to heart discussion to find out the root cause of the actions (not 'naggingly' but with wisdom).
  2. Find out if there are things that you are doing that's making him/her uncomfortable/threatened.
  3. Pay close attention to him/her when you're at your family (study his/her body language) you will generally know some tell-tale signs.
  4. Make sure that he/she is inclusive in conversations.
  5. If you are not from the same tribe, take extra time/care to interpret/ reduce the language he doesn't understand.

The only person that can change is you. the answers to the question aren't straight-forward but there are things for both parties to consider if the relationship is truly worthwhile. having done all to make peace and he/she still doesn't budge, then re-consider the relationship because you are heading for a lonely relationship.

No one should be in this position
One: Nice one Counsellor Agbalagbaski! I am taking notes myself as some of the things you listed above are things I could take for granted... Thanks!

Ms PumpkinUnited: Quite an interesting topic.. Permit me to indulge in a bit of holistic plagiarism, NubianP actually spoke my mind.. I also believe that there's a reasonable extent to which SOs should get along with each others family, it must not be that kuchykuchy kinda bonding in all cases..as long as they relate well, they don't have to be besties cause it is not something to be forced, some people are good at that going the extra mile thingy to bond and do 'parakpo' things and others are not, it doesn't mean that they disregard family.. The bonding will happen if it will.. as long as my SO is not trying to isolate me from my family or does not appreciate nor show respect to my family, we are cool.. but note that if he treats your family like trash, he will treat you worse than trash..

One: Haaa the extra-mile thingy is a BIG criteria for me ohh! Very big.. Infact, you need to get to them to get to me.. Plus it helps that my family are absolutely amazing (:-D) so if you don't get along with them, I suspect you lol

Go the extra-mile, even if it means wearing something 'special'
Ms PumpkinUnited: I would really love for them to all get along really well and bond really well like one big happy family, you know, eat poundo and okro soup together from one plate ..but hey, it's enough for them to get along, all the other going the extra mile is cool and of course desirable but then its not a criteria for me, or yardstick..some people just bond from the word GO while others bond little by little overtime..

Mr Motivation: For me, I feel that how one's SO regards your family mainly depends on the perception they have about how you relate to your family i.e. if the bond between you and your family members are tight, it is expected that the SO should endeavour to establish a sound relationship with them as well. So I recommend that people should avoid slagging off their family members before their SO just because of a moment of disagreement with a given family member. The impression you create of a family member can be lasting.... However, I totally trail down the lines of thought of Ms Hope, in the sense that if you indeed truly love your SO, the love should be in whole and not in parts given that he/she comes from a family.

If you don't have anything good to say, say nothing
One: Preach!  I love that angle! I think the way you portray your family matters so much! Even if they are not 'all that' at the moment, still try to 'big' them up.. In the long run, it pays a lot.

Ms Hope: It's important for my sweetheart to be in sync with the family I'm coming from. Some people might be indifferent about this but for people like me who grew up in a closely knitted family, it means a lot. I should embrace his family while he embraces mine.

The guy/girl who truly cares will go out of his/her way to develop a relationship with the other's family/siblings because he/she should be aware of how important it is to his/her sweetheart.

Close-knit
One: Yes Madam Sweetheart :-D

Mr Motivation: Having said that, some families may tend to be more difficult than others due to reasons best known to them eg tribe, religion, past history, exposure, or other personal biases or shortcomings etc but it doesn't eliminate the role of the SO attempting to keep a good relationship with the family. I know of a couple that despite several attempts of the lady to get along with some members of the hubby's family, it seems to be be futile but she still endeavours to reach out and I believe with time she will break through. Love conquers all things.

One: Amen oh! Sometimes, some families are very difficult! However, I believe that love for your partner would inspire you to try as much as possible to get along with them + God says so - "As long as it lies with you, be at peace with all men" Romans 12:18 (Even the 'ayamatangas!' < Sorry no known English translation for this one :-D)

Left < Example of an Ayamatanga family member lol - You have to love them still though :-)
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And that's it from us.. I would be interested to see if there's anyone who has seen or experienced situations where getting along with one's partner's family members was particularly difficult.. Also, in addition to Mr Agbalagbaski's very helpful tips, what other things do you think could help to build relationships between families?
Plus, is it even important to bother at all?

Wednesday, 8 October 2014

Our Fantasies and His Faithfulness - On Dreams, Realties and the Challenges-in-between (Sebastian Luling)

Guess what?! Today, we have the pleasure of one of our favourite guest series writers of the Chronicles fame, with another interesting, witty and deep article.. Ladies and gentlemen, it's no other person but Sebastian Luling!!! *rings bell*

Sebs aka Sabba Sabba, it's always great to have you on 1 + The One!

I bet that you will enjoy this one.. Happy reading!

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Hello dear readers!

It’s me again, Sebs! Happy new month! Kedu? Bawo ni? < Ayo taught me this one :-). For those who 'no sabi me', my name is Sebastian, a German who wrote some “Chronicles” about my experiences in Nigeria. Since I finished the series, a lot of nice things have happened!

First, Ayo started an amazing new “Convo” discussion series shortly after the “burial” of mine: Ehen, when I think about it: Sometimes old things need to go so that new ones can start, don’t you think?
Germany won the World Cup, which was an amazing experience that actually got even the reserved Germans very excited. There was a lot of dancing, flag-waving and a sense of togetherness. But I suppose it didn’t quite match a Nigerian owambe (Ayo again!). :-)

Germany - Football World Champions!
I got to meet super-friendly Nigerian novelist Lola Shoneyin during a book reading. Chai, that woman has power!

Just recently, my sister got married! Since this blog mainly focuses on relationships, I thought I could share some stories and lessons from that event. 

Before and After :-)
See these two pictures? This is my small sister Sanni acting as a bride in her admired dress that belonged to one of her favorite aunties (aunty in the Nigerian sense :-)). She always loved to dream about her own marriage and being the expressive-speak-her-mouth kind of child she was, she also revealed whom she wanted to marry: First, she wanted to marry me her brother lol, then after some more understanding it was Robert, then Jürgen and finally she ended up with Carsten, whom she actually befriended and after 14 years of an up-and-down relationship, married at the age of 29 (don’t worry, age is not a huge secret in Germany lol). 
Then and Now!
Now these pictures were part of a wedding present from my oldest sister (Sarah) to Sanni (the bride, and yes, our names all start with S lol) to show her how long her little sister has been waiting for this wedding day. She unveiled it during a moving speech about their sisterly childhood and teenage memories. While she presented the old pictures and told their stories, I was both moved and also somehow carried away in my thoughts: I was suddenly so aware of how much has happened in my dear sister’s life between these old childhood dreams of being a princess and her actual wedding over 17 years after.
As a brother, I’ve witnessed first hand what happened in these 17 years: Silly laughter, stupid arguments, reconciliations, insecurities, difficult decisions, conversations about decisions, gisting around the dinner table and loud music in the car. Now, at her wedding, not only did her wedding dress turn out to be different, her whole life took a different course from what she might have expected. I felt so happy that she finally got married, realizing how much she went through. It’s almost like in the movies when you appreciate the happy ending all the more due to all the wahala they went through before.





I believe these observations of childhood dreams and the struggle in realizing them translate to many other areas: When people are young or when they are about to start something, they can be as dreamy and confident as my sister back then. It is the confidence of …
… a football team at the beginning of a World Cup or any other tournament,
… little primary school children thinking they can do anything in the future,
… someone launching a new project, a series, an idea,
… a madly-in-love girl who feels she could hug the world.
Usually, these people start with the excitement of the new. Yet, when the first challenges arise; the difficulties when…
… you lose your first game,
… you do badly in school,
… your project is not going well,
… you discover some major flaws in your loved one.
… then we can easily lose sight of our dreams and of God’s plan. It all seems so wearisome that we can get into a mere passive survival mode, a mode where we somehow keep going, yet stop to thrive, to smile, to laugh, to hope, to reach out. 

I feel that especially in Nigeria, a country with so many brilliant and talented people having so many individual dreams, but people who sometimes lack the opportunities, resources or connections to realize them, it can be difficult not to lose hope. I sense this also when I talk with 'diaspora Nigerians' here in Germany, when they start talking about their home country, they express this tension between what is … and what could be, this sense of nostalgia mixed with frustration. 

With some of my Nigerian friends in Germany
So what can we do? Well, I don’t have all the answers, but one thing I know for sure: God has His plans for us, and they surely include disappointments. Joseph had nice dreams, but he also had a not-so-nice cell in which he had to live before his dreams came true. Jesus had a mission, yet he knew opposition, betrayal and misunderstanding would be his portion before achieving that mission. Still, both of them did not lose their confidence and hope. That is the tricky part: To go through wahala, yet not to say “I don tire”. To endure, not just with resoluteness, but with hope and joy. To fall down, and get back up again. To be vexed, and still forgive. To look at some old pictures and start to dream again, but to remain open for a “change-of-plan”. To let God give you the energy, patience and strength to do all of that.

When I read through some of the comments on this very blog, I can sense the hopeful outlooks of many godly sisters, women who, inspired by other role-models, hope for the best and who believe that God will provide them a good husband and a blessed marriage. It is refreshing to see this enthusiasm and this energy. However, I don’t know about the ones who don’t comment and the doubts and disappointments every one of us might have had, especially in this area. But I pray and hope that we don’t lose hope, joy, and this sense of excitement. That, like my sister, one day you can look back at your troubled life and smile about the past dreams, rejoice in reality and look forward to what’s next.

Me, when life was a lot simpler :-)
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And I say a big AMEN to that... Thank you for this brilliant encouragement and reminder to never stop dreaming and to never give up on our dreams.. They may change slightly (or totally!) but as long as God's in control, it would always be better.

Congratulations to your sister and her husband.. May the reality of their marriage surpass their dreams or imaginations!

"Now unto Him that is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us" - Eph 3:20

Keep hope alive!

Monday, 6 October 2014

'Thus Says The Lord': Brothers Step Up! - Grace Efezokhae

You all need to see the grin on my face when I read beautiful love stories of how couples met on Waiting and Loving

It!!! series on 1 + The One and also Wedding features on Bellanaija weddings. 


It’s always interesting to note that even the mundane of things could attract two strangers together - from the nice hair the babe had on to the guy’s dentition amongst others. For me, I get attracted to a nice pair of shoes on a guy and neatly done haircut. Who knows, maybe that’s what will attract me to THE ONE. Ayo, watch out for our love story….lol! "Grace saw a guy wearing this cute pointed pair of shoes and voila we both shouted Eureka!"..hahahah!


I listened to a young pastor preach some time ago and he talked about how he met his wife. He said he was at a Christian gathering and he was attracted to this beautiful lady with lovely legs. The Holy Spirit revealed to him at that point that she was his wife. He began speaking in tongues before the Holy Spirit told him “Come on go and talk to her”. Now, that’s my grouse for this write up o. Why do Christian brothers get so spiritualized about a common 'boy meet girl' kind of thing or getting to know each other better?


If God reveals someone to you as your to-be spouse. Why would you just walk up to the person and start quoting scriptures and telling her straightaway what God has told you? It may have worked for some, don’t get me wrong. I just feel the process of becoming friends first is a really good thing. Why not start by being friends and gradually both of you can be on the same page of conviction. 


So many ladies have been misled and manipulated by some spirikoko brothers with the “Thus saith the Lord proposals.


Sometime last year, a so called brother in my service unit at church gave me a Christmas gift in form of a bible and a book. I was like “Oh thank you” and even bought him a book the following week. I did not read any meaning to it because It was the season of gift exchange between the church members at that time. After then, he came with the “Thus saith the Lord said proposal. He was like Daddy (referring to God) revealed you to me, that Grace you are...." Etc etc, and proceeded to tell how I needed to pray about it.... My thoughts??I’d rather pray for the kids in Somalia who need a plate of food!! I


I’m sure the utter look of annoyance on my face was evidence enough for him. Now here's the thing, he didn’t even get to know me first neither did he even ask if I was in a relationship! He just came with his own desires and in my opinion, started using God as a cover up. To make matters even more dicey, he started pestering with calls asking if I had been praying about it. After a few days, I got really fed-up and gosh I had to give him a piece of my mind. 


He said he would go back to talk with Daddy... 

You see, I have my personal relationship with God too and God should have given me a conviction the way he did for Joseph and Mary right? I think it’s high time the Christian brothers woke up and realized that there are some phases in life they don’t need to 'over-spiritualise'. Dress well and look good not by wearing cutlass sized ties, larger than life shirts and over flapped trousers. These are just one of the many reasons why sometimes we see a fervent Christian sister rolling with a non-spiritualised dude, and we begin to wonder what the sister is seeing that we can’t see!


Enough said….1 Corinthians 14:33 – For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints”. God loves us ladies so much that he will not force any brother down our throat by malicious prophecies. He has given us the gift of freewill. Will God give you a brother you are not physically attracted to? No, he won’t. if he is really the One, God will give you a natural desire to love him as he is. Develop a more personal relationship with God and don’t be deceived by all these “Thus saith the Lord” proposal even if the brother is the most spiritualized brother on earth!


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And Miss Grace has spoken! What are your thoughts? Do you think it's alright to go with the flow once a 'broo' has come to tell you 'thus says the Lord'?

For the brothers in the house? Any responses? I look forward to reading your thoughts!


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Grace Efezokhae fondly called graciemama is a Chartered Accountant and a graduate of Accounting from Covenant University. She has worked previously with 2 of the big 4 Accounting firms. She has a passion for writing and blogs at graciemama.com. She looks forward to traveling round the world in her lifetime. You can contact her by email at gracie_blog@yahoo.com


Thursday, 2 October 2014

Conversations with One - How Important is Money in Relationships?

Hello everyone!!

We are back!!!!

Yup, that's how happy we are to be back! :-D
Thanks to everyone who checked in and asked after the panel:-) We loveeee you!!

A little introduction for first-timers:

Conversations with One is a chat-series on the blog.

Each week, the 1 + TheOne panel (made up of beloved and very wise friends with a variety of personalities) and I bring you snippets of our 'round-table' discussions from a male/female perspective.. We talk about any and every thing!!

Ladies! Have you ever wanted to get into the mind of a guy? (I know I do! lol), and for guys, I bet once in a while you wish you could just read her mind! Well hopefully week after week, we get to bridge that gap!

You can have a look at the last conversation where in the spirit of the month of Praise, we thanked God for 'missed opportunities'. You can read it and other previous episodes HERE.

This week on Conversations with One *cue music*:

"She no want designer, she no want Ferrari, she say na my love oh..."

Many of us have heard that popular song by the Nigerian artiste that explains that his love-interest is not bothered about material things, but just wants his love.. Now this week, let's discuss:

"How Important is Money in Relationships?"

Now this topic is really broaddddd! But I hope we can narrow it down with some questions:

1. Is it possible to have a successful relationship (courting or married) when money is absent or when it's in excess?
2. Should money be present before you consider marriage?

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Ms PYT: I have missed the series and I'm so glad we're back.

Personally, I feel money is a very important matter in relationships o! We all say that line "money is not everything" or "don't marry or date someone because of money" but erm... Who wants to date a broke guy. lol‎

Broke but cute... Any takers?
One: Question of life!! lol

Ms PYT: I think it's going to be difficult to have a successful relationship without investing financially in it. No matter how little or how broke the guy or girl is, they must at least buy birthday gifts etc. You can't be singing "I'm broke" everyday now!
I'm seriously thinking on how best to explain this money issue because it's a broad topic, maybe I'll just answer the points you raised.
Is it possible to have a successful relationship when money is absent? AT FIRST, yes, but having in mind that money will be present in the next few years, maybe the guy is still a student and you know he'll finish soon and get a job but when the guy is just a broke guy and you don't see any sign of him making it, abeg flee! To be honest nobody wants to suffer.

It's the thought that counts.. Yes/No?
Ms UTA: Hmmm, the Bible says a man should provide for his family, that's why it says a man unable to provide for his family is worse than an infidel because I believe he brings shame to God (1Tim 5:8). Therefore, every man who desires to have a family must be diligent, get a good education/learn a good trade, use his God-given gift because no one was sent to this earth by Baba God without a gift/talent to enhance his/her income. No woman, I repeat, no woman will be happy if there is no money to care for the home and children.

Let me share a real-life story. There's this married couple that the husband has not worked for almost throughout the duration of their marriage (over 15years!). His reason? He is very qualified and has not seen a job commensurate to his qualification hence he cannot demean himself in that manner (Did I hear you say what??!) - True story. As you can imagine, it is mega frustrating for his wife and has affected their marriage very negatively! Wife has had to look after the home and children with no support from her husband. You cannot imagine the frustration of going to work from morning to night and coming home to meet your husband in the same spot you left him, day after day!!


Day after day after day! *Arghhh*
This is the story of some people...
To be honest, some men are just irresponsible - and hide it under different excuses! A responsible man would do any kind of job to provide for his family!

One: Wow, can qualification feed a family?! I cannot imagine being in that position.. I have always said that for me, if a guy is too selective about a job (when he is dire need), alarm bells start ringing! There was a guy I admired a lot and would marry just because he was a serious hustler! Nothing was too 'below him' to do.. In my mind, I was thinking "if I end up with this man, I know that I will not go hungry!" lol.. Today, he is very comfortable - but he paid his dues!

Ok, ignore the 'Doll' bit but even a boy knows that diligence pays!
Mr JohnNash: Guys I have learnt again and again, marriage comes after work. Notice I did not use the word job. God gave Adam work before he created Eve. I think the guy must be involved in something, passionate about something, engaged in an area which will eventually bring returns. Please do not marry while seeking employment oh!!!

Ms TrueTalk: Money matters! Even the bible says 'money answereth all things'! (Ecc 10:19); at the same time it says 'The love of money ‎is the root of all evil'! (1Tim 6:10) So, what does one do? Spend money, need money, but don't let it become your god!

In a relationship, you need money to buy gifts, no matter how little. Even if you don't have money ‎at first, there must be a plan, job or contract to make money in the near future. Not having money can be a sign of laziness in some cases.

I do not expect the man to be 'super-rich', but he should have sufficient funds to meet basic needs like food, clothing, shelter and others. Having more for things like vacations, luxury cars etc will definitely be a plus.

One: I think even for ladies, being broke in a relationship is tough business! To be honest, it's quite limiting... You keep wishing upon a star..

Lol.. That's right!
Miss Me: In a relationship setting I think that finance is an area where both should be willing to make sacrifices. So if one is not quite as "rich" as the other, then you should be able to cover the one you're in a relationship with. However, it's also unreasonable for us girls to demand more from a guy than he's able to!! In a marriage setting, really the finances should be equal territory!

Ms MIA: Hmmmm....This one is tricky! I say that because my father will not even listen to you if you bring a man that has no stable source of income no matter how small. He always says that there has to be a fall back somewhere.
Also, the presence of money is relative. If it means whether marriage can occur where the man is jobless, I will say yes. I've seen it happen but I will ONLY 'enter' if that man has a vision. I must also state that I must know that God is leading me there. You know it's easier to hear God when all the desired criteria are present...lol!
Seriously though, I think that a couple make up their financial purse together, therefore I'm working hard as he will be doing, to increase our finances. I will only go into that marriage if I know that the man is going somewhere; a man who puts his hand to work no matter how small - No shady or dodgy deals but he's not ashamed to work his socks off to provide for his family. A responsible man!                
                   

Mr Motivation: I am really looking forward to the contributions relating to the topic. Frankly, speaking, in as much as money should not be the sole object in relationships/marriages, I feel strongly that finances have a role to play in determining how 'sweet' a relationship/marriage will be. Often times I feel that men in particular believe that they must have billions before they can make a woman happy and so they shy away from giving little treats and waiting for when the money is complete in order to blow her mind with something special. But guess what, something will come up and chop that money....hahaha. I feel that when the most of little is well utilised, a right thinking lady would appreciate it no matter how little (ladies pls tell me I am right) except if her eyes are like 1999 Model of E- Class (aka Okpolo eye)....lol

Eyes wide like a Mercedes E--Class (1999) lol
Mr JohnNash: I think the first question we need to ask ourselves is: What is a successful marriage/relationship? Lets make a logical assumption that a successful marriage or relationship is the one in which both parties are happy and flourishing.

Based on the above, my answer is NO to the absence of money in a marriage or relationship. The woman might endure the absence of money and stay by your side but you will know she's not happy. I would rather be single than see the woman I love unhappy. 

One: Aww, give me a handkerchief, Nash has gone all emotional on us *sniff sniff* (ok, don't shoot me please lol)

Ms Hope: People of God, the love of money is the root of all evil, but mbok, the lack of money is the genesis of disrespect. 

LOL.. Thanks for keeping it short and sweet Ms Hope.. 
So, ladies and gentlemen, is that a proverb that is worth adhering to? What's your take on it? Please leave your comments and let us conver-sate! xx

PS Thanks for the loveee and mention on your BLOG JDB!